tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5931834670826653533.post2068132293224663231..comments2024-03-29T07:39:48.764-04:00Comments on A Principal's Reflections: The Device Conundrum - 1:1 vs BYODEric Sheningerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13733305358794643322noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5931834670826653533.post-17013452453963032282014-02-11T21:34:32.893-05:002014-02-11T21:34:32.893-05:00Has anyone noticed this article by Gary Stager, BY...Has anyone noticed this article by Gary Stager, BYOD – Worst Idea of the 21st Century? <br />http://stager.tv/blog/?p=2397<br />Why are students and families being asked to provide materials needed for a world class education? What next? BYOC (Bring Your Own Chair). If finance is the issue, it should not be. What's happening to a "free" public education to "all" citizen?<br />Tony Amslerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03404018161133943459noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5931834670826653533.post-4087001014086333262014-01-03T06:15:23.929-05:002014-01-03T06:15:23.929-05:00Great discussion and I applaud to the statement th...Great discussion and I applaud to the statement that perhaps the discussion is equally important as the decision.<br />I generally support a BYOD with a support policy for those who can't afford an appropriate device from home. The reason for my support is that devices very quickly become obsolete and continuing a 1:1 with ever new devices will be to costly - I think. I'm afraid that the solution to the cost of renewing devices every two to four years will be that schools will work with too many outdated devices.<br />I don't think that SYOD will have much chance in most school districts - there will be the same arguments against as for the BYOD from a technical point of view. There will also be a challenge of how informed in respect to support for learning many of the 'selections' will be after all.Ovehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14382921894000028778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5931834670826653533.post-15076777036540604412013-09-12T09:05:25.844-04:002013-09-12T09:05:25.844-04:00Jon - You can implement a BYOD initiative anyway y...Jon - You can implement a BYOD initiative anyway you want, but imposing that requirement might be a bit unrealistic and increase the divide between the haves and have nots.Eric Sheningerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13733305358794643322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5931834670826653533.post-79550858731131227742013-09-11T22:29:26.166-04:002013-09-11T22:29:26.166-04:00I don't teach in the US but in a private inter...I don't teach in the US but in a private international school. 'We' want to go BYOD - but my concern is the consistency and compatibility of devices - eg a smartphone can't count as a device because it's useless for typing. Is it possible that you have a BYOD device program which is regulated by rules - eg 'you must have a device with a functional keyboard'...? Any examples of such ?<br />Jon Hoffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15218703884601180050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5931834670826653533.post-51059689808167133702013-05-25T17:45:44.821-04:002013-05-25T17:45:44.821-04:00Eric, I think that we need to be device agnostic. ...Eric, I think that we need to be device agnostic. I have a 25+ year corporate technology background and one of the buzzwords that I just started to see peek out is SYOD (Select Your own Device). It may be 'yet-another-acronym' ploy by someone of the consulting and lecture circuit to gain some press buzz -- but I think there is alot of truth to the fact that you need to use the tools you have and can afford.<br />I am also on my schools board and run its technology committee -- and 90% of what I want to see us implement is in the cloud anyway. So, yes -- it would be nice if everyone had a school provided Mac Airbook -- but you certainly wouldn't make that an obstacle to getting Chromebooks or iPads into the fray.Method123https://www.blogger.com/profile/06251014702737997985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5931834670826653533.post-60773289149571750212013-04-06T21:28:27.436-04:002013-04-06T21:28:27.436-04:00I also don't think there is a right answer in ...I also don't think there is a right answer in the debate between 1:1 and BYOD. I think 1:1 makes it easier for teachers and staff members when they are using one device. I think BYOD is more student centered but you have the demographic issue to think about. If considering BYOD, what about BYOD programs where students are given the specifications of the devices they need to bring? This gives students a choice and staff the ease of knowing that the devices will have most of the same capabilities.Joseph Harperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08267998575940601593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5931834670826653533.post-84305652855445663182013-04-06T21:25:02.453-04:002013-04-06T21:25:02.453-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.jjivin99https://www.blogger.com/profile/14689404291941203551noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5931834670826653533.post-29411171922622955472013-04-03T12:13:38.664-04:002013-04-03T12:13:38.664-04:00Joshua,
I agree with your comment about the import...Joshua,<br />I agree with your comment about the importance of school demographics to the 1:1 vs. BYOD discussion. I believe that a 1:1 plus BYOD is ideal because it provides every student with a common device and levels the playing field so that every student has equal opportunities to engage with the technology. I just can't believe, and have never seen it proven (or at least convincingly argued otherwise) that students with iPod touches/Nintendo systems, Android phones/etc. will have the same powerful creation capacity as students with iPads, Chromebooks, laptops, etc. It just doesn't make sense to me. Even if a class is differentiated where students can work on a variety of learning activities and demonstrate their learning in multiple ways, having a 4" phone does not provide the learner with the same opportunities as a student with a more dynamic machine. Having said that, I also agree that students should be able to bring their own devices to use when appropriate or desired. This is such a rich and engaging topic, and I love that some of my favorite educational bloggers (Eric, Bryan Weinert and Jason Markey of Leyden H.S. near Chicago, Patrick Larkin, among others) all have differing opinions on this topic!Alicia Duellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17111760494835053411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5931834670826653533.post-65058096266415030772013-03-31T20:06:54.040-04:002013-03-31T20:06:54.040-04:00I think it is critical that the socio economic sta...I think it is critical that the socio economic status of the school's demographic be included in every conversation about whether BYOD or a district provided device to support a 1:1 learning environment is the right choice. In schools and communities where not every student has a personal computing device, let alone a home Internet connection, it is imperative and the responsibility of the school leaders to insure equitable access is provided, which in many cases necessitates a district-purchased solution.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5931834670826653533.post-58536528643599528062013-03-29T09:07:52.946-04:002013-03-29T09:07:52.946-04:00So excited to read this! I work at a primary schoo...So excited to read this! I work at a primary school (Years 0 - 7) in South Africa and we are one of the first schools in SA to go BYOD - from June last year - for the very reasons you've outlined . We strongly believe in a multi-platform approach and have had an almost 100% uptake for our Year 6 and 7 students. Students seem to insticntively know best device for each task and share when task demands dont suit their device. Follow up surveys with parents students and teachers have also been very supportive and positiveteacherinhighheelshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15793562962743016424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5931834670826653533.post-84363591477206977942013-03-29T08:31:34.583-04:002013-03-29T08:31:34.583-04:00The debate might be as important as the decision. ...The debate might be as important as the decision. I encourage the districts I talk to to dive as deeply in as they can. I don't think there is a correct answer, but the process of debating it can help us reach a deeper understanding of technologies place in our schools/classrooms. I recommend creating an affordances and constraints chart as a part of that process and a list of questions the discussion then raises.<br /><br />http://balancedtech.wikispaces.com/Bring+Your+Own+DeviceBalancEdTechhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03187678079776476532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5931834670826653533.post-60135191210410832112013-03-29T02:10:10.462-04:002013-03-29T02:10:10.462-04:00Eric,
I have been thinking about all of the point...Eric,<br /><br />I have been thinking about all of the points you address in this post. What I find in my district is that the students are not involved in any decision making concerning the types of devices/technology that will be purchased for their use. I am having my middle school students take an informal survey when we return from spring break because I want their opinion and perspective on the types of devices they prefer using. <br /><br />At a recent technology meeting, the adults debated the "best" technology tool. They projected their preferences instead of considering/requesting student preferences. My preference is a BYOD program which allows students to teach each other about the various devices. <br /><br />I am going through the process of researching a new phone since my contract is up. I have a handful of students who are actively "helping" me research and find the right device. It is such a great learning experience. The smart phone options are overwhelming and require thoughtful consideration. Instead of imposing a device on students, we should be teaching students online responsibility along with evaluating and comparing various devices and their strengths and weaknesses. There is no such thing as a perfect device so it is important for students to understand the attributes of various devices. If there is a BYOD policy in place the students compare and contrast the technology that is in the room and become knowledgeable consumers.Kristen Beckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03517864993491472673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5931834670826653533.post-71181144044602998342013-03-28T17:13:54.420-04:002013-03-28T17:13:54.420-04:00Andrew,
Maybe other schools have tried to mandate...Andrew,<br /><br />Maybe other schools have tried to mandate every student bringing their own device, but we and many other districts do not. Students can use their own devices as supplements to what we already have and for productivity purposes if they wish. In cases of learning my teachers use cooperative learning strategies to ensure equity if all students do not have a mobile learning device with them. BYOD should NEVER be mandated for the reason you state.Eric Sheningerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13733305358794643322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5931834670826653533.post-52463447696342079532013-03-28T15:56:07.525-04:002013-03-28T15:56:07.525-04:00The one potential legal concern to BYOD is that Ca...The one potential legal concern to BYOD is that California courts just ruled that schools cannot require students to purchase class materials or devices. In this recent case, the courts have declared that it is a violation of the citizens right to a "free" public education. Here is a link to the article I'm basing my comment on; copy and paste the link.<br /><br />https://mail.pvusd.net/owa/redir.aspx?C=Kq80Zac8_kWUJE5_zYKWGz8LMIeD_88IAYT9SaIXqklMsFa7YFexPXVedSGtPvir5zlIbykX7RA.&URL=http%3a%2f%2fwww.santacruzsentinel.com%2feducation%2fci_22702203%2fnew-california-school-law-that-bans-fees-causes Andrew Ghigliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09877090839350096476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5931834670826653533.post-58585283469917606132013-03-28T08:23:56.319-04:002013-03-28T08:23:56.319-04:00Eric,
We are in the process of launching a 1:1 in...Eric,<br /><br />We are in the process of launching a 1:1 initiative in my district. I'll be writing more about it when we make our decision public. However, I can say that one of the things I've been advocating for is choice. Just because we are going to provide a 1:1 device, it doesn't mean that should be the only device our students have their hands on. That is why we will have a BYOD policy in place as well as a 1:1 device. <br /><br />I recently said to our school board that we live in a multi-platform, multi-device world. We do our students a disservice by only allowing them to work on one type of device on one platform. They might end up in a college that is all Apple. They might go to work in a place is entirely PC. Maybe Microsoft is in their future, maybe it's Google Docs. <br /><br />The point is, none of us know where our students will end up, and it's our job to work with our students to prepare them for their future. The best way to do that, in my opinion, is to provide a level of equity through 1:1, allow/encourage BYOD, and never settle on just one device/platform.<br /><br />Great post my friend!@MrBrettClarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00401144871932469190noreply@blogger.com